Thursday, May 13, 2010

I cant believe what i am reading, r u all crazy? do u remember the girl snatch while she was having a bath?

u cant look after your children 24/7, what about sarah payne then? every child being taken was left alone at certain point, all those sick people need is one minute to take a child, madeline family is going trough a nightmare if it happen to me i want to be put a sleep until they find my child else let me die, i know i'd be a coward, i cant believe u r calling the Madeline parent discusting, no one would be able to have a life if we take the precaution u r suggesting, not even be able to go out of the door, the children were a sleep inside a flat, and they were checked regularly, IN A FLAT, not on the street, what were they suppost to do? watching them while they were a sleep, in the same room? because even if they were in the room next door, somebody could have snatch Madeline anyway, again remember the girl in the bath.I cant believe what i am reading, r u all crazy? do u remember the girl snatch while she was having a bath?
If they had been asleep in the next room, the chances are the french doors would be locked, the fact is, they were 50 yards away in a tapas bar, with no view of the unlocked french doors!


The case of the girl in the bath goes to show how easy it is for a child to be taken from under your nose, let alone the other side of the pool on dark night in a public place!I cant believe what i am reading, r u all crazy? do u remember the girl snatch while she was having a bath?
i quote.............if it happen to me i want to be put a sleep until they find my child else let me die,





now have they ever look as if they are having that thought?
u sound like one of the mccann family backing them up ....i guess u see no wrong in leaving vulnerable children alone ?
Welcome Littlest,





MCCANN (AND ALL THAT JAZZ)





1. Great question - which needed to be asked.





2. Eden has saved me much typing: thoroughly endorse his/her views so lucidly expounded.





Try to stay out of trouble,





EdHern





Hern! Hern! Hern!
actually i can see where your comong from, but myself i would never have left my kids on their own, but at the same time everyone makes mistakes and they are paying a high price, but i dont think there is any need for people to be so nasty to them they are suffering enough, grieving is a terrible thing to have to go through, and these parents are grieving, and i for one feel so sorry for them and hope to god they get their little girl back.
There's a rant if ever I seen one.





Yes, I remember the case of that poor little girl been taken from the bath and yes, I am aware of other 'adbuction' cases and all it takes is for the parent to drop their gaurd for a second.





The McCanns didn't drop their gaurd. They made a concious decision to put their desire to have a meal without the kids over the needs of their children. Children need to be protected and supervised. Have you SEEN the picture detailing the resturant and their apartment? It wasn't next door or even across the road, it was over bushes, a pool and terraces and even round the corner.





There is a huge difference between dropping your gaurd and actually calculating the risk in something and getting it so so so wrong.





Don't compare the two, it is insulting to the other caring parents.
Might I remind you that it is not against the law to leave your child in a separate room whilst you are in the same house [unless you have the child chained up, malnourished and beaten!].





There is a marked difference between a child being abducted from a house in which you are present and a child being abducted from a property because you have decided to p*** off to go for afternoon tea!!





Two suggestions:


1) Go away, buy a yellow ribbon and sing your sob story elsewhere preferably on the McCann website.





2) Go back to school to learn some grammar. If your post is indicative of the support which the McCanns are getting, then they really are in for some very long months ahead!!





ADDITIONAL - Why an earth would I want to write in Italian... ?? Not exactly a world language is it!!!! I can write in French and I think that is a far more worthy endeavour thank you very much!!!
get a life doll, remember there were 3 kids in that flat and 2 were 2 year old? and you think its ok to leave them alone in a flat, well my god hope you never have kids or if you do my heart goes out to them!!!!
You've got a point, BUT, if this couple had been working class, left their kids to go for a pint or two


A The media would have crucified them





B They would be awaiting trial
Excuse em moi....





You are taking a proportion of extreme cases and comparing them to another extreme...





This is like comparing a chip pan fire to arson.





One does not justify the other and we dont say the cause was fire ...





Look at each case on their own merits and not anyone elses...





In this case prosecutors will have to look at the abductor but need to look at the parents or else this case will certainly happen again...





When we critices the McCanns its because we are saying for most folk this case does not happen when the parents are around... and society norm whatever Gerry says is not to leave your kids at home at night whilse you go out for dinner..





If the norm was that all parents pick up children from school because of a curfew and a child went missing and it was bceause the child walked home alone her parents would be blamed....





Obviously we cannot compare this case to Sarah Payne or the child abducted from the bath.... because nobody expects somebody to come into your home and take a small child away.... and that Sarah PAyne was abducted because she left her friends walked home and picked up by a known peodo in the area...
what are you talking about??
You've really answered your own argument. I read about the little girl in the bath and various other such cases that happened despite the fact that parents were around. This very fact should make parents even more vigilant not less. To leave children all alone is a risk too far that nobody with any sense would ever take. Maybe the McCanns have never read a newspaper in their lives so don't know about these dangers.





Well said Eden! You won't get Best Answer but your logic is impeccable!
Oh, so it's all of US who are crazy is it? Well let me tell you, until such times as you can communicate your ideas in proper English, using REAL words and not text-speak, and then spelling quite easy words properly AND using the correct punctuation, I'll ignore the fact that you're accusing ME of being crazy. We all know the stories of the missing children and many of us are rather fed up with hearing so much about the McCann case and so little about all the others so we don't need YOU coming on here to insult us all ! ! !
littlestar, you obviously are not English, but in England there are laws that govern how children must be looked after. In the view of a lot of people, probably the majority, the McCanns were, at least, very close to breaking those laws
even if we all suddenly get a clout on the head and start thinking that leaving three small babies alone in an unlocked room for hours on end is fine, and let's all do it, because after all, doctor's can so therefore it must be fine.


Even if we all start thinking like that.....


It beggars belief that these stupid parents have allowed this to turn into the media circus it has become. I was alone in my group of friends in my contempt for the McCann's at the start of the week, but having seen the interviews, the planned outing to Fatima, the blogs, the jogs, the cover of hello magazine. Having learned about the company fund and having heard Mr McCann saying they plan to tour and they don't plan to hire any PI's, one by one staunch supporters of them in my circle have gradually become weary and tired of this couple parading around like the new celebrity, kissing people's babies, walking over the flowers people throw in their path.


Their constant criticism of the Portuguese police who are doing theri best in what has not been the easiest investigation given that the parents lied about various things such as how often they checkedon the children, whether the room was locked or otherwise, whether the shutters were tampered with. One by one people who wanted to believe them and wanted to support them have had enough.


So yes, let's all suppose now that they've set the precedent and the world has gone mad and decided it's perfectly fine and a good idea to go feed your bellies and leave three babies alone, I still have issues with them about how they're conducting themselves. How they're asking for money to fund a tour, how there's barely a mention of their daughter on their website, it's all about them, them, them, them and their family. How he picks and chooses what question he will and won't answer.


The aggressive e-mails their family send sout to anyone asking pertinent questions.


They're not helping themselves, they're losing support by the day and they have no-one but themselves to blame.


Perhaps all parents do make 'mistakes' I'm sure most of us when having had a 'mistake' pointed out, do our utmost to rectify it and ensure we don't do it again.


The McCann's with each new day just keep on adding to the giant ball of Karma they have headed towards them at some point


Grrrrrrr ...
It is wrong to compare other situations of different children. We are obviously very annoyed of what the McCanns did and nothing will change our minds.
If this child had been taken from the room next door then the parents couldn't have been blamed because they would have been taking every precaution but going down the road for a meal and leaving 3 young children alone in an unlocked flat does not constitute taking every precaution. They were down right negligent and now must face the consequences.They are 100% to blame for what has happened.
Sorry Littlestar but if you can't mind your children '24/7' as you put it, make sure you pay for somebody to, because you can never take your eyes off them, especially when travelling abroad. We either took my mother with us or my sis-in-law. free holiday for them for a bit of baby-sitting, %26amp; total peace of mind for us
It is moronic to suggest that doing what they did is equivalent to what happened in the case of the girl in the bath. What a pathetic argument. They were morally and probably legally guilty of child abandonment and perhaps neglect. The VAST majority of parents do not consider this to be reasonable behaviour.





Try this: If you are a good parent, you simply do NOT take stupid, totally uneccessary risks with your children for the tiny benefit of a meal out! IT IS NOT WORTH IT! NOBODY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD SAY THAT IT IS!!!!!!





I give up, we're still banging our heads on a brick wall here folks, some people just do not have decent standards of behaviour.
I wouldnt leave my kids in a flat or anywhere else - period. I feel sorry for the family though not angry at them. We dont even know she was snatched from the flat anyway. More likely she woke up alone and wondered off and was snatched then.
well said sister.
Lets put it in simple terms for you. Who's putting their child at risk. The people who stay in with their children? or the people who leave their kids alone? Is that simple enough!





Have you got kids? because for a person to make such ridiculous comments i can't believe you have.
it does not matter how much we debate over this whole issue.





the fundamental fact, that stares everyone in the face is that they left THREE YOUNG CHILDREN alone in a flat/villa/house while they went for a meal. what horrifies me, is that the twins are 18 months old and they LEFT them???





two doctors?





if i went into their surgery, left my two young boys asleep in their pushchair and disappeared over the road for a meal, for 1/2 hour, then what...............how long would they wait to report me?


they could have easily used the babysitting service available but in their wisdom (?) they chose to leave the children ON THEIR OWN!!!!





silly, stupid, irresponsible people. there are absolutely NO excuses for what happened and I'm sorry to say but had they have been in the flat then maybe whoever took Madelaine may have thought it too much of a risk!!





something is not right about this whole thing! i don't know what but somethings just don't add up!
These 2 left their children unattended,unprotected and vunerable to tradgedys such as this one. there was a baby sitting sevice which they never used. how many times before this had these 2 left their children ';home alone'; what they did was a crime. there is a huge difference between nipping to get the child a towel after a bath,and abandoning 3 children under the age of 4 to fill their bellys and get drunk. they should have been there to protect their children,END OF STORY!!! WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT POOR LITTLE GIRL IS SUFFERING,NEVER MIND TWO IRRISPONSIBLE PEOPLE THAT THINK THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO CALL THEMSELVES PARENTS. I HAVE NEVER AND WILL NEVER LEAVE MY YOUNG CHILDREN TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES. WE CANT BE THERE 24/7,BUT WE CAN DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, AS PARENTS, TO KEEP OUR CHILDREN SAFE FROM THE SICK AND TWISTED PERVERTS THAT ARE OUT THERE. I AM A VICTIM OF ABUSE,SO I KNOW WHAT SICKOS ARE OUT THERE. IT WAS DONE BY MY OWN FATHER!!! SO PARENTS DONT ALWAYS DO RIGHT BY THERE OWN CHILDREN. THEY LEFT THE FRONT DOOR AJAR,WHAT DID THEY THINK??? ';IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN TO THEM??? THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES FOR PUTTING THEIR CHILDREN AT RISK. THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE TO PROTECT THEM AT ALL TIMES. THEY ARE IN THE WRONG,AND THE POOR LITTLE GIRL IS THE ONE WHO IS TRULY PAYING THE PRICE FOR THEIR ACTIONS. SHAME ON YOU. YOU SEEM TO BE VERY NASTY AND BITTER IF YOU ASK ME, AND SICK FOR YOUR COMMENTS ON ABUSE. I DONT WANT YOURS OR ANYONE ELSES SYMPATHY FOR WHAT HAPPENED TO ME. YOU MOCK OTHERS FOR SPELLING WHEN YOU CANT EVEN SPELL YOURSELF. PEOPLE LIKE YOU MAKE ME SICK. IF YOU DIDNT WANT PEOPLES OPINIONS YOU SHOULDNT OF ASKED A QUESTION SHOULD YOU. MAY LIFE BRING YOU WHAT YOU TRULY DESERVE. NASTY PERSON
Of course every child is left alone at some point BUT you dont leave them to go and have a meal. A holiday is family time not couples time.
So what is your point?
totallly agree these are parents who just wanted to get something to eat and rather than keep their three young kids out late they thought it better to let them sleep somewhere that they believed was safe


i dont thing they would have done the same thing at home there is a psychology to it all perfect surroundings wether etc means idyllic crime free place people act different on holiday you see families with kids of about 5,6 and 7 years of age sending kids back to apartments for suncream etc which they wouldnt do at home or half way down a beach for ice cream which they wouldnt do in a packed town centre


people need to stop attacking these people who are doing all they can to find their daughter does anybody seriously think they want to become celebrities out of this i think they are just being very methodical as educated people and trying to take the right steps to get their daughter home where she belongs


people should focus all their negativity and hate toward the animal/s who have taken madeleine away


p.s i think your english is excellent
Actually there was no sign of a break in or any evidence to suggest that any other person had entered the room a fact reported on Sky News by a flying squad detective so this is why the portugese police have struggled to find the crime scene ......................
I know, I reckon this is all just pure bad luck and could've happened to anyone! I can't stand the way people are criticising that poor family without being there themselves first. Well done.
Well said !


Great to hear some positive support for this family who are suffering beyond all imagination, yet manage to keep focused on their main goal - to get their daughter back whatever the cost !
you're absolutely right. ive been saying the same as you and i get shot down in flames by the lynch mob. the person who took maddy appears to blameless , he doesnt get a mention because in the eyes of the mob its not his fault. its the McCanns.
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